“We Need a RESET IN THE WAY THE ECONOMY GROWS Around the World” – Christine Lagarde, IMF Chairman
This is one of the most important articles Pastor Williams and I have created.
Pastor Williams has sent his radio interview schedule that is posted above. He will be discussing alternative and natural healthcare with Dr Rodrigo Rodriguez MD of the IBC Hospital & Health Care Center in Tijuana, Mexico. It will be very important for you to listen to these shows if you value your health. Everything is connected, health and wealth are intertwined and therefore when Pastor Williams talks about the health of the American people it is important that you listen. I am sure he will also talk about the Global Currency Reset during the interviews, so please make sure you take the time to listen.
I was also sent a number of articles by Pastor Williams relating to the Global Currency Reset. The first article he sent me talks about how the currencies of the world will be revalued. Every country under IMF and World Bank control will be valued based upon their assets. This means physical assets as well as the country’s ability to make future profits from such areas as oil extraction, mining, refinement, fishing, forestry and agriculture. The more jobs a country can create to produce tangible goods, the higher the currency value. Around the world the outlook is a positive one, where those country’s currencies are revalued higher will benefit from the ability to improve their lifestyles. For example Africa will see water wells drilled, irrigation systems installed for crop and livestock production to help produce exportable commodities. All of these will see many of the third world countries standards of living raised considerably.
What does this mean for Americans? Max Keiser, of Max Keiser Financial War Reports said this “What will happen is there’s going to be a currency revaluation across the globe. The dollar will probably be cut in half versus its other major trading currencies. Gold in particular will have to be, as it was in the 30’s, valued upward. So gold and precious metals and any currency that beings in a basket of commodities or precious metals as the basis of that currency will, in concert, you’re going to see a revaluation of gold bullion I believe… and you can see the price of gold move up 50, 60% in one day or one week, or it could move 100% in a week. This means that all currencies are going to be revalued against gold and the currency that stands to lose the most would be the US dollar.
And people will wake up in America, as it has happened in other countries, like Iceland recently, or other bail out countries from the IMF, or in Russia, or in the UK in the 70’s and suddenly they wake up and it’s like our currency was devalued by 50%, we’re now being bailed out by the IMF and the world bank, everything at the store costs double or triple or quadruple, and there’s nothing they can do about it because it’s not like these things happening without a careful coordinated plan by the banking establishments around the world that’s setting this all up to go when it needs to go. It’s going to be relatively effortless on their part.”
What Pastor Williams has said is being repeated through many other outlets including King World News “The new system will be backed by hard assets, one of which most assuredly will be gold, and the gold price could well be revalued overnight in that process. The timing of all of this is imprecise, but it’s inevitable. So as much as the short-term price action might have people frustrated, it shouldn’t disturb their long-term view in the least.” Silver Doctors says “Ben Davies states that revaluing gold and backing the monetary system with it could be one of the least disruptive ways out of the credit mess.” Also, “There will be no currency war, but there will be co-ordinated devaluation of all G20 currencies against gold, just like there was in the 1930’s.” Goldseek has said “But, far from being a silly idea, gold revaluation has been a mechanism of restoring solvency to government since central banking was invented and is very much a serious topic now as central banks race to devalue against each other …” GATA also said “Millar stresses the periodic upward revaluation of gold as the mechanism for defeating a deflationary debt depression at the end of an economic cycle” and went on to say “However, it appears that Phase 4 (instability and ultimately deflation due to excessive debt) may have started. If so, Phase 5 (revaluation of the gold price to raise the monetary value of the world monetary base and hence reduce the burden of debt) becomes likely or inevitable. The extent of that revaluation would need to be major according to our calculations, probably by a factor of at least seven times, possibly by up to 20 times the current price of gold.”
A precedent has been set by the book ‘The Silver Bomb’, which said “The era of debt-based economy, which is dependent upon the creation of debt, which is leveraged with still more debt will draw to an end. The free-fall will come to a sudden stop and the hard reset of the respective values of all commodities and currencies will occur. The banks are already preparing for the paradigm shift.”
If you have visited LindseyWilliams.net I recommend that you review the comments section of the latest articles. Our very active and informed commenters have given us hundreds of great comments bearing information that continues to confirm what Pastor Williams has said. There is thorough analysis of the chairman of the IMF Christine Lagarde’s recent speech at The National Press Club including the blatant statement alluding to global currency reset “…forthcoming asset quality and stress tests that will take place in 2014.” Later global currency reset confirmed in her speech at Davos World Economic Forum… “We Need a RESET IN THE WAY THE ECONOMY GROWS Around the World”. The IMF is telling you what they are going to do. Definitely keep an eye out on what the IMF is saying.
Billionaire Hugo Salinas Price has given an interview to Mexican news website Inteligencia Financiera Global stating that “The world is attempting to live by means of the great lie of fiat money. It will not work. You deal with Reality by means of Truth; Truth is thinking that checks with Reality. Gold is money, and if we refuse to face that fact, we are lying.” He also talks about how we got to this current global economic crisis. “We got to this state because our leaders – in Universities and in Politics – have wished to forget Reality and have thought that by using our brains we can get around Reality. Thus our thinkers and political leaders have been attempting to put Reality to one side and in its place, use fictitious money, which can be manipulated to keep people happy.” He goes on to say “Our leaders have chosen mass deceit as their instrument of power. What they will obtain will be utter chaos and disorder, and mass impoverishment.” Price goes on to say “The clear beneficiaries of monetary and credit expansion are those who get the money and the credit first, before the rest of the people. They become wealthier, at least for a time, while the rest of the people sink into diminished well-being. But, eventually, all goes up in smoke and heads begin to roll: those of the guilty as well as those of the innocent.”
Hugo Salinas Price also talks about precious metal markets manipulation saying “Of course the gold and silver markets and manipulated. You have to either be blind or a Harvard Graduate with doctorate in Economics to ignore the fact. The purpose of the manipulation is the same as the purpose of the French Revolutionaries in attacking gold when they were printing their “Assignats” paper money like crazy; to try to suppress the indicator, which showed the destruction they were carrying out with unlimited printing of fiat money. Gold tells the Truth and so it is an enemy of those who wish to deceive their populations. Paul Adolph Volcker, famous head of the Federal Reserve of the US, once stated: “Gold is my enemy”.
On a return to a gold standard he said “A return to a gold standard will not be possible until thinkers and leaders begin to think differently from how they think today. We know for a fact that people in Asia have not forgotten about gold. They are buying gold frantically. They can see what we cannot, that the dollar is doomed. Perhaps a new monetary order may be imposed by China and Russia acting together. At least, that is a hope.” Price also talks about the “thousand individuals” who control the world and that “the people themselves who enslave themselves”.
Mr Price also talks about China accumulating gold at a high rate. He said “… the Chinese are not so silly as to think that gold is no longer of vital interest and importance to humans. China is thousands of years old. The US is not even 250 years old. They know that the rule of the US dollar is coming to an end, and are preparing for that moment. They are not talking about this, because they know that those who think understand China’s motives, while it is useless to explain their motives to those who will not think.
Importantly Hugo Salinas Price talked about the Federal Reserve’s gold reserves. He said “… the US does not have the gold it says it has. The US was the custodian of a gold cookie-jar, and the US government ate up all the cookies. They have no gold left-“.
The second article Pastor Williams sent me more or less confirms what Hugo Salinas Price says relating to the Federal Reserve not having the gold reserves it says it has. Former Assistant Treasury Secretary Dr Paul Craig Roberts has said this of the Federal Reserve “They don’t have any more gold. That’s why they can only give Germany 5 tons of the 1,500 tons it’s holding. In fact, when Germany asked for this delivery last year, the Fed said no. But, it said we will give you back 300 tons … So, they said we will give you back 20% of what you trusted us to keep for you over the next seven years, but they are not even able to do that.” He goes on to confirm that the holdings of gold in the West are being drained and transferred to Asia. Because the Federal Reserve does not have the physical gold they are turning to massive ‘naked shorts’ of gold futures contracts. This has also been discussed in the e-book I wrote in October 2013 detailing ’10 Steps to Avoid the Crash’. In summary Dr Roberts said “They don’t have real gold … So they come in and dump contracts, say in a period of 6 minutes, that are three times the amount of gold COMEX has to make delivery. So, it drives down the price of gold. That’s how they got the price of gold down from $1,900 to $1,250.” This blatant manipulation of the gold markets confirms why the Federal Reserve will not allow anyone to audit their vaults, because they don’t have any.
Dr Roberts also goes on to say “The ability to continue selling these ‘naked shorts’ is now disappearing because there is no gold left to back them up … None of these ETF’s has the gold to back the shares. The ability to continue looting them in order to make good on gold deliveries is running out. So, this will prevent the Fed from selling ‘naked shorts’ to protect the dollar from its policy of quantitative easing … You can’t print $1,000 billion of new dollars every year without causing other holders of dollars to wonder about the value of the money and to seek a way of getting out of it. China has been doing that by going into gold.” This confirms what Pastor Williams has been saying for many years, “get out of paper” and “Gold and silver are the currency of the Elite.”
Roberts predicts, “If people in the West try to move from dollars into bullion and there’s not any to speak of, then you would see a massive rise in the price.” He also predicts “I think, this year, you are going to see a further downturn in the economy. The signs are not only that we do not have a recovery, but it’s going to get worse … Christmas sales were very negative. There’s no growth in people’s income and no jobs. So, if the economy goes down further, what does that mean? It means the deficit widens. It means they have a greater debt ceiling lift. They have to have a bigger ceiling increase, and all of this will alarm the world. They’ll say, good heavens, they already had a trillion dollar deficit. Now it’s gone up, and the Fed can’t stop the quantitative easing without the stock and bond market collapsing. The banks’ solvency will become an issue. So, the world is watching a bigger deficit, more printing of money, and they are likely to start dumping dollars. When they do that, they’ll say ‘gold, I want gold’. There’s not much supply to meet demand, and the price has to escalate. So, I wouldn’t be surprised if that shows up this year.”
Also confirming what Pastor Williams has been told by his Elite friend that the Affordable Health Care Act is not about healthcare. Dr Roberts said “The Affordable Health Care Act is not affordable and doesn’t provide care. It’s a way to loot the poorest people and steal whatever assets they have … The poorest who are supposed to be helped are herded into Medicaid, where any property they own is subject to estate recovery.” Medicaid Estate Recovery is the process initiated by U.S. state governments for recovering payments they made under the Medicaid program to program beneficiaries. The government recovers the sum of payments from the estate at the time of death of the program beneficiary.
A few people have complained that nothing has happened, yet. They should take every day as a blessing when nothing happens, because it is another day they can use to prepare. Most people who read this article will do nothing. I don’t know why people wait until it’s too late. You have the information not only from Pastor Williams, but from many other sources. You know the US debt can no longer continue to spiral out of control. You have the ability to do what you can to protect yourself and your family. Your time to prepare is running out. Those relative few who have taken steps to protect themselves from what is about to happen are going to be glad they did when the dust settles.
To those who are still on the fence, please read through Pastor Williams’ website. Listen to his radio interviews; watch his DVDs and films some of which are freely available on YouTube. Follow the advice given in the free e-book ’10 Steps to Avoid the Crash’. All this help and advice is there to help you protect yourself.
Those of you who haven’t at least converted part of their investments from worthless paper assets into physical gold and silver – I have to ask why you are so hesitant? When the Global Currency Reset happens, it’s likely your investments will halve in value overnight Those who wait and do not take heed the warnings laid out by not only Pastor Williams but other highly respected individuals are taking a very big risk to their family’s health and wellbeing. Please take the warnings shared by a former Federal Reserve Chairman, a Billionaire, even the chairman of the IMF. The Global Currency Reset is real. Gold is more precious now than it ever was, you should now understand why Pastor Williams has repeated many times that Gold and Silver are the currency of the Elite. The collapse is coming, it is inevitable. Protect yourselves and your families. You have the tools, now use them. Stop procrastinating, start doing something however small, today!
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Pastor Williams has advised people to acquire gold to prepare for a coming currency event. Today Bloomberg ran an article on gold price manipulation. We cover that here on our blog:
http://lonestarwhitehouse.blogspot.com/2014/02/breaking-today-on-bloomberg-gold-study.html
Tomorrow we will run another article on gold about some surprising US insiders that are associated with a website that acquires physical gold for high net worth buyers. All this is consistent with Pastor Williams advice on gold.
Sounds perfectly in sync with what he is saying to me. It is manipulated down…but the lid will come off and it will go up up up.
Before doing research on this, I sure had no idea that people like former SEC Chairman Arthur Levitt and Gen. Wesley Clark were on an Advisory Board for a website that sells precious metals to high net worth investors.
We cover that here:
http://lonestarwhitehouse.blogspot.com/2014/02/some-surprising-insider-goldbugs-part-ii.html
These are elites similar to what Pastor Williams may be talking about. Notice they are selling physical gold and not derivative (paper) gold products.
Stop spamming
I’m hoping Lindsey will be able to talk more about the reset. It’s almost March! I know someone was talking about March 4th being an important day, what is Lindsey’s thoughts on this?
I’m posting this youtube channel because when you search for global currency reset on youtube it brings up this channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/globalcurrencyreset
gold shooting up
stocks at high from inflation and fed printing press
It seems a portent attitude is in order since Chinese Treasury holdings took the biggest plunge by selling off some 48 billion in US paper recently. And what makes it even more interesting is the EU purchased much of it!! So how long can the printing press continue when the largest purchaser of our IOU’s is not buying? LW may not have been exact on his 90 days but I recall he stated that “if” the IMF gets their way it will be within that 90 day period. I hope the USA is granted some time because those who have posted they are ready may not know what they really are ready for. It could be Zimbabwe over night.
G20 this weekend. Press very quiet about the meeting- very little of the usual hype about the gathering
the latest video “US, UK, EUROPE AND JAPAN” WILL ALL DEFAULT ON “THEIR DEBT”! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12r7ORYxDN0#t=29
The system was designed to create this debt. I highly doubt that the countries will just default. This means that the rich will pay the poor, which has never happened in the history of the world…
Latest from Jim Willie.
http://www.silverdoctors.com/jim-willie-we-are-well-past-the-11th-hour-the-global-currency-reset-looms/#more-38974
Joseph Stuber has written 2 excellent articles in seekingalpha. He deserve more readers.
http://seekingalpha.com/article/2013211-why-a-gold-play-finally-makes-sense
http://seekingalpha.com/article/2030131-the-least-understood-dynamic-in-todays-economy-and-what-it-means-for-investment-assets
Anyone who thinks that gold is just an inflation hedge doesn’t deserve reading… The same for anyone who thinks that having deflation means that we can’t have inflation at the same time…
Wow this is a great article, makes me a little hopeful actually. There’s alot of necessary gloom and doom around here, it can’t be helped, but still have to try and find hope where we can.
http://blogs.wsj.com/peggynoonan/2014/02/18/our-decadent-elites/
Over at Larry’s blog [http://lonestarwhitehouse.blogspot.co.uk]I learn that the yaun cannot be a reserve currency [because it needs to have masses of liquid assets – which it has not].
The conclusion is that, when the big meltdown occurs, a digital reserve currency will be well primed for the event and ready waiting in the wings [KlickEx…??].
But before that time [a year or two] what about this more recent GCR that Pastor Williams warns about?
It may be delayed, it seems. But if and when it does happen [as a ‘fill-in’ till the derivatives meltdown later] which nation has the qualifications to carry the status of reserve currency??
Of course it’s not going to be the Yuan.
From other comments Lindsey Williams has made, it is obvious it is going to be the IMF issued SDR or similar.
That certainly would make sense, Y Diddy. But I’ve often wondered at that, as Pastor Williams said that he has a contact who’s been accumulating the proposed new reserve currency. As far as I know you cannot exchange other currencies for them yet…??
Good comments in this sub thread.
Jim Rickards says the IMF will push the SDR as a solution eventually. But right now, that can’t happen without US approval. The US Congress won’t even allow the IMF to re allocate voting power so I doubt they will accept a global currency any time soon. This is why I think the whole process is stalled. Unless a sudden crisis emerges, it does not look like anything will move forward at the IMF. So the BRICs are just moving forward on their own to build a system that does not depend on the US dollar as world reserve currency. That is my take right now.
There is a great article on http://www.theinternationalforecaster.com called Watch out it is coming! I live in Canada and am very disturbed by everything I see going on in the Usa. My advice is invest in rice. If china stops shipping stuff because they wont accept your dollar anymore Walmart will be empty in 72 hours.
I think it is increasingly unlikely that Pastor Williams GCR will happen in the time frame provided for us. The worst part is that Pastor Williams has decided to stay quiet about the whole thing and just let the time run out without comment. Now, there is still time for this event to occur, I do not believe it will happen however. I will never take such an announcement as this, coming from Pastor Williams, seriously in the future. It is a serious issue when someone I look up to like Pastor Williams cry’s wolf. Good luck to all.
All he is doing is repeating what the Elite are telling him, if this doesn’t happen it’s not his fault. Either they lied to him, or something didn’t go to their plan. Lindsey has provided lots of good info, like the four signs to look for before the collapse, or to get prepared for the coming collapse. The only question is WHEN it’s going to happen, there is no IF here. The collapse could have happened in 2008, but they papered it over. This can only be delayed so long however. It is coming, be thankful if it doesn’t happen by the end of February, you can still have more time to prepare.
Also have you noticed all the banker “suicides” lately?
Finally, via Financial Post, here is a chronological summary of all recent banker deaths:
Sunday, Jan. 26: London police found William Broeksmit, a 58-year-old former senior executive at Deutsche Bank AG, dead in his home after an apparent suicide.
Monday, Jan. 27: Tata Motors managing director Karl Slym died after falling from a hotel room in Bangkok in what police said could be possible suicide. Slym, 51, had attended a board meeting of Tata Motors’ Thailand unit in the Thai capital and was staying with his wife in a room on the 22nd floor of the Shangri-La hotel. Hotel staff found his body on Sunday on the fourth floor, which juts out above lower floors.
Tuesday, Jan. 28: a 39-year-old JPMorgan employee died after falling from the roof of the European headquarters of JPMorgan in London. The man, Gabriel Magee, was a vice president in the investment bank’s technology department, a source told WSJ.
Wednesday, January 29: Russell Investments’ Chief Economist Mike Dueker was found dead in an apparent suicide. Police said it appears Dueker took his own life by jumping from a ramp near the Tacoma Narrows Bridge in Tacoma, Wash., AP reported. According to Bloomberg, Dueker, 50, had been missing since Jan. 29, and friends and law enforcement had been searching for him.
The week before, a U.K.-based communications director at Swiss Re AG died. The cause of death has not been made public.
Monday, February 3: 37-year-old JPMorgan Chase & Co executive director who died from unknown causes Feb. 3 appears to be the latest in a series of untimely deaths among finance workers and business leaders around the world in the past three weeks. Ryan Crane, a JPMorgan Chase & Co. employee who in a 14-year career at the New York-based bank rose to executive director of a unit that trades blocks of stocks for clients, died in his Stamford, Connecticut, home.
Tuesday, February 18: 33-year old JPMorgan forex trader is the latest in a string of suicides to take his life in Hong Kong.
and there’s this, one of the most connected Elite’s out there, George Soros is betting on a crash:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-17/soros-put-hits-record-billionaires-downside-hedge-rises-154-q4-13-billion
Something is up, and probably in the near future!
What’s going on???
The latest is that Italy announced incoming wire transfers will automatically have 20% seized by the govt- to protect against money laundering- ours’ not theirs’
The latest few comments make me feel I don’t belong here. It started to look like One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest. A dream? WHA Contact? Are you guys serious about your money?
Oh don’t worry I’m in the same camp as you. The stock markets are going to make new highs, but I’m sure no one on this thread is taking part except me. Forget what the permabulls and permabears say, they’ll end up destroying your wealth.
Interesting forecasts and projections. What other issues has Lindsey Williams mentioned for the coming few years? Appears that the events or levels he has mentioned are correct in the direction, level or nature, but markets and political activity changed them just a little bit. Thank you for sharing them!
We discuss the issue of the timing of a reset here:
http://lonestarwhitehouse.blogspot.com/2014/02/the-64000-question-when-is-reset-coming.html
It may help add some perspective on the subject.
When is Pastor williams going to be on again
thank you
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2014/02/13/218026/mcclatchy-marist-poll-american.html
Wait until they have to exchange their old FRNs for the new TRNs and realize that they have lost 30% of their purchasing power.
I had a dream, a few nights ago, where I saw gasoline immediately go to $5.53 a gallon, all in a matter of hours. I believe that scenario is quickly approaching.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/gold-scale-heights-technicals-suggest-044505089.html
As most of us know, this is not gold appreciating in value, but rather the dollar depreciating in its buying power. In the past three days, many articles similar to this have been written. Movement towards the GCR seems to be happening.
http://www.thedailysheeple.com/government-lays-groundwork-to-confiscate-your-401k-and-ira-this-is-happening_022014
Bob Chapman (International Forecaster) mentioned this to me, years ago. He said that he was aware of bills in the House and Senate, which were not being assigned any numbers. The reason being is that people would get outraged if they knew it was happening and could cross reference the info via a document number. This (again) fits into info that Pastor Williams mentioned in his last DVD. People, it’s not a matter of if, but one of when.
There is 2 weeks left in February will this still take place.
Research I do for my blog on monetary system change indicates that things may be stalled right now. There is an ongoing dispute over and IMF proposal to re allocate voting power at the IMF. It had been expected Congress would approve that already but they didn’t. It is turning into somewhat of a debate. It is not likely any kind of reset plan could move forward until this issue is resolved.
I plan on putting up articles on this on my blog tomorrow that kind of show where things stand. The US has veto power at the IMF and until Congress approves this, I would not expect any major changes coming out of the IMF which is where a reset would have to come from for all nations to agree on it.
This is not the first time I ‘ve seen this-
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101408290
Was watching the House Financial Services Committee hearing with Janet Yellen. And one of the congressmen asked (I’m paraphrasing) “What if the world decides that the dollar is no longer the world reserve currency?” They didn’t show Yellen’s answer. I’ll post the transcript when they put it up. Interesting.
This site has Yellen’s answer.
Just a boiler plate pat answer.
https://mninews.marketnews.com/index.php/yellen-excerpt-fed-preserves-dollars-value-world?q=content/yellen-excerpt-fed-preserves-dollars-value-world
Worth a look and study(Jim Willie Archives).
http://www.silverdoctors.com/tag/jim-willie/
Notice he has pubished 4 articles this Febuary alone, he is trying to wake people up to whats coming.
Has anybody here planed to leave the country?
The RESET will not happen till JULY 2014 it’s been pushed back 4 months. They need more time and America is not cooperating and refuses to sign IMF reset form 2010.
Do you mind telling me how you got this information, J?
US Congress and Obama have no more say here. The process has bypassed Obama for decisions. This thing will go down with or without Obama’s signature. This has been confirmed by WH contact.