WARNING!
From Lindsey Williams: I just received an email from my Elite friend.
My Elite friend indicated that they have a World Wide Financial Collapse scheduled between September and the end of December 2015!
You may have just THREE (3) months to prepare!
World Wide Financial Crash Sep-Dec 2015 – Full Newsletter
TRUMP OR HARRIS – The war for the US and the World…
CONGRATULATIONS PRESIDENT TRUMP! Hi. I am James Harkin, and I am the webmaster of LindseyWilliams.net. I sent this as an email on Monday, November 4th, 2024, to all of the current subscribers to LindseyWilliams.net. I think a lot of the emails got blocked. So, I am creating this blog post that includes the entire email. […]
The New Elite In 2015
Pastor Lindsey Williams returns with a new DVD ‘The New Elite In 2015.' The topics included in the DVD are: When is the US banking system going to crash? Bank deposits are no longer money! ISIS vs ISIL! The truth about oil! Deflation not inflation! Annihilation of Israel! Violence in Washington! Interest Rates! The Levant??? […]
Special Events Scheduled For 2015
From Lindsey Williams: I contacted my elite friend at your request and to my amazement, he gave me what you asked for. The date in 2015 for the financial collapse Also… – What will happen to the housing market – Warnings about the stock market – Chaos in the derivative market – Corporate bankruptcy – […]
James
Does Lindsey know if the “elite” have selected the person to be the antichreist?
When will the tribulation start?
Is Lindsey a pre, mid or post trib preacher?
Another alarm bell.
Bank of International Settlements says the world is defenseless against the next economic crisis and central banks around the world have no further ammunition:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11704051/The-world-is-defenseless-against-the-next-financial-crisis-warns-BIS.html
Warnings are on the increase
The alternative media deserves credit. They’ve been yelling about this coming crash way ahead of time and Pastor has been top of list.
This is a recap of the many sites predicting a crisis this fall:
http://lonestarwhitehouse.blogspot.com/2015/06/crisis-forecasters-are-pointing-towards.html
You know this is the kind of thing that makes me think we’re being fed disinformation, especially about the exact timing of all this. Too many people are calling for this by the end of the year. This collapse is coming, but we may be being fed lies about the timing to mess with us.
Regardless have a plan for both cases if this does or doesn’t happen by the end of the year.
This is my first time replying. So first off, I would like to thank James for hosting this site and for the recent barrage of excellent articles.
Mark, I have wondered about this too. But I think we may be approaching it from the wrong angle. We are thinking about people doing things and covering up what happened so only those ‘in the know’ can figure out what happened. I think this economic crash is different. In light of what is revealed here : http://www.unric.org/en/latest-un-buzz/29623-figueres-first-time-the-world-economy-is-transformed-intentionally, I think the crash could be meant as absolute ‘proof’ that our present economic system is broken, faulty and not worth repairing. Time for a new one. I think we’re meant to be worried about it happening, and meant to hurt when it does happen. Because then we will be open to new ideas?
Again, thanks to all for the discussion.
Nina, the people responsible for the bad state of the economy and banking are not the ones to offer a new system. They will only build it to benefit them and not us. Unfortunately, the elite are changing laws so we cannot transact money or develop income outside of the system and taxation. We are far from the informed revolt needed to change things. Unlike the informed people coming here, the majority of people just don’t care or care to know. So with that attitude our enslavement is ensured for generations to come. I cannot even remotely interest anyone I know about the topics Lindsey Williams speaks about.
Okay, Nina I see what you meant. I will look into Patrick Woods’s Technocracy Rising. I have partially gotten just a very few people to consider some of Lindsey’s points. But while they are open to some of the points they ultimately end up putting it out of their mind because it disturbs them at some level. And they all still fall back into the rut of believing the Dems vs Repubs as the real problem. The puppet show the powerful use to distract people while the burglars walk out the back of the puppet box with their money.
A youtube interview of Patrick Wood and his book is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7QlOTi86Nk
Mark, you may be right or not but the system is so fragile that when it collapses either by purposeful acts or not, it will affect the entire world. The derivatives market is a box of IOU’s. Imagine if we do hit the skids economically and everyone needs money at the same time. It isn’t there. Just like Germany’s gold is not there. Pray that it never happens, but having gold or silver are real assets in good times and bad. Paper money devalues over time through inflation.
Joe, thanks for the reply. I totally agree with you! When I said “WE will be open to new ideas” I meant the OTHER ‘everyday joes’ out there 🙂 – the real average guy on the street. The average person has no idea what is happening, and as you say, doesn’t really care. Are you familiar with Patrick Wood’s Technocracy Rising? It’s not the WHOLE picture, but a good bit of it. I have found that some people have been willing to look at that, and then if they’re interested enough, you can open their eyes to see that it’s actually going on in real time – and then they become more interested in sites like this one. My success rate at waking up the sleeping is also pretty dismal though (it’s a count them on one hand thing, and you don’t even need the whole hand!)
Keep well.
Greek banks to close Monday until further notice-
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-28/greek-capital-controls-begin-banks-remain-closed-monday
James can you comment they said the banks will close for one week. Is this start?
(ED: The UK’s Guardian says: ‘The Troika (European Commission, European Central Bank and the IMF) are telling Greece: make workers redundant, pay those still in a job much less, and slash pensions for the elderly. But, it’s not just in Greece. Nearly every meeting of the wise folk in Brussels and Strasbourg comes up with the same communique for “reform” of the labour markets.’ That is the current situation. Alex Tspiras has declared a bank holiday and capital controls. While banks will remain closed until July 7th, 2015, banks will reopen in Greece on Tuesday, however there will be a 60 euro withdrawal limit. If the referendum returns a “yes” vote, Tsipras will step down as PM and a unity government will form to negotiate a deal with its creditors. If the referendum returns a “no” vote, the banks will remain closed. If Greece says “no”, then the possibility of a Greek exit from the Euro will be high.)
Looks like the Greeks are going to vote themselves into more debt slavery.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/greece/11705421/Most-Greeks-will-vote-Yes-in-make-or-break-bail-out-referendum-polls-suggest.html
Kick the can wins again.
I like the photo in this article – the exhausted senior lady slouched over on the railing says it all. The sad part is, this is only the beginning!
September-December hasn’t arrived so I personally was expecting them to kick the can further down the road. The way the world currently is, I’m even suspicious that the article is fabricated by the elite. Not being an expert, I wonder how long it takes to pull down the entire world’s banking system. From listening to Pastor about derivatives I got the impression it would be in a matter of hours. So the elite won’t let Greece default now – it’s too early. This is all crazy and laughable, we’re sitting back like an audience watching a staged show and helpless to do anything to stop it, except run for cover.
GREEK BANKS CLOSE UNTIL JULY 6th. IMPOSE CAPITAL CONTROLS LIKE CYPUS DID.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-28/greek-capital-controls-begin-banks-remain-closed-monday
James does Lindsey have an update to share with the email list. Things are really heating up for real. Not only is China having issues, but now the Greek Banks are basically shutting for a Bank Holiday until July 5th with limits of $66/day withdrawals and no overseas transactions allowed. This is sure to rock the worldwide stock markets on Monday June 29th.
(ED: All Pastor Williams has been told by his Elite friend is in his new DVD ‘Things You Must Do Before September 15th, 2015‘.)
As one commenter wrote at the bottom of this zerohedge article… “have a nice day” (LOL)
Two good minds to listen to are:
Rabbi Jonathan Cahn
Sheik Imran Hosein
They do not know each other, but the consensus is the financial collapse will occur on Sept 17th, 2015. The US will plunge into an era of zero sum austerity and borderline chaos.
ISIS, ISIL, whatever you want to call the fabricated enemy, will be emboldened and lead the muslims against Israel. A great war is coming to the middle east. Israel will win, by design, then take all the land.
Israel will become the next world superpower replacing the US. I have ordered Williams new DVD, I suspect once the US is in turmoil, the middle east will explode into war more so.
They feel this will be the seven year tribulation.
THE RETURN OF BETHLEHEM’S STAR (TRUNEWS RADIO 062615)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBh6xrMpNYs
30 June 2015 Star Re-Appearance
30 June Reappearance of the Messiah’s Star
http://thechristmasstar.org/30-june-2015-star-re-appearance/
And so it begins. Remember Pastor Williams Elite friend said keep a close eye on China:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-26/china-plunges-most-2008-verge-bear-market-greek-drama-continues
If you haven’t prepared, you have less than three months to protect yourself and your family.
Yes, Pastor was told “China is the big one”
Not only this dilemma in less than 3 months, the 666 beast is approaching afterwards:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVm8tQPLG-8
For those choosing to refuse the mark of the beast, storing 3 1/2 years of food supplies may not be a far fetched idea.
God bless Pastor and James. Their work is appreciated and hoping Pastor can continue to filter through data from the elite so ‘little people’ trying to stay alive till the Lord returns can do so.
I often wonder how they would play it out, and I suspect it will sudden as the elite use the element of surprise to continue their assault. This is truly surreal, thirty years ago, I had a flash of insight that helped me to understand that we live in a world of contrived events controlled by a few.
Hi James. A question. Could it possibly get so bad that we don’t have utility service? How would that happen? Why would the electricity go off? I know trade disruption will happen and the grocery stores will be cleaned out but what else?
Thanks
(ED: Let me say that the pension companies rely on interest rate bonds. During the Thatcher/Reagan era they took on 30 year bonds at around 14% interest. These bonds are now rolling over at 1 to 1.5% interest. The pension companies need 8% interest in order to continue to pay out. In order to cover current obligations, they need interest rates to rise to 3% minimum. This is how bad it currently is. If you take a look at ‘Paying for the Past – 2015 Fiscal Summit‘ I posted on June 10th, 2015 you will see top finance people talking about the problems the US is having now and in the future.)
Interesting article on the possibility of the SDR becoming a global currency in the future:
http://lonestarwhitehouse.blogspot.com/2015/06/dr-warren-coats-former-imf-global.html
What do we do if we cannot afford the 50 video price? Do poor people not have the opportunity to know?
(ED: The DVD is available for the gift of $48. If you cannot afford this, there is plenty of freely available information offered by Pastor Williams and myself at LindseyWilliams.net. If you follow the ’10 Steps To Avoid The Crash’ guide I wrote based on Pastor Williams’ list in his DVD ‘Elite Emergency Data’ you should be on the right track.)
there have been postings on the net that supermarket chains will begin closing down in mid August. Safeway in Denver has already shuttered 9 stores.
Chaplain Williams, Mr Harkins, please allow me to add one other step I forgot to mention on Michael T. Snyder’s article referenced in Chaplain Williams, June newsletter, reinterated from his many media dvds. STEP 5, BANKS FAIL.
(ED: Not necessarily. ‘Banks can no longer be declared bankrupt. The banks can be refinanced by bail-ins using depositors’ money or be bought out.’ Also ‘Congress passed a spending bill that makes the American taxpayer responsible for any derivative losses that a bank may suffer.’ This was mentioned in Pastor Williams’ ‘New Elite for 2015‘ DVD as well as in the newsletter I sent out on March 30th, 2015 )
James, with the commentary in the alternative media about the global situation, the picture portrayed is that there are 2 factions – east and west. Currently the east is working to topple the west, the west is retaliating to protect the USD. I’ve had the impression the top elite control the entire world, east and west. Would you have any comment on this? Can Pastor clarify? I get the impression that if the east win, they will defeat the establishment of a NWO and one world government. What suggests this defeat is the trading relationships being established between BRICS nations. I can’t see a NWO occurring if BRICS nations are strong since they have the ability to break away from any NWO. Can Pastor obtain information on whether BRICS is part of the NWO? If they’re not, it brings hope that any NWO agenda can be toppled and the global outlook may not be so gloomy.
(ED: I personally believe there is no left and right. I believe that there are Elite and there are slaves. The wealth is moving East, and then it will be moving back and so on until their agenda is complete. I do not know who the Elite work for. But, BRICS is merely a trade agreement, just like NAFTA, GATT, TTIP and TPP. That along with all of the other governmental forums, G8, Private Public Partnerships, NGOs, think tanks, lobbyists and other permanent advisers adds up to world government. All of the BRICS nations are members of the UN. The UN is pushing sustainable development, Agenda 21. Just like Holy See is pushing sustainable development and the climate change agenda. Sustainable development will ultimately see the cataloguing and control of all resources, human and other. The Elite consider the human resource the same as a rock, a grain of sand or a microbe on the bottom of the ocean. All the BRICS will do is try and make a better bargain for themselves and the countries under their umbrella. But it doesn’t matter when everything is controlled by the same Elite. Did you know Vladimir Putin has Henry Kissinger to dinner regularly? Don’t rely on the falsehood of enemies. These puppet leaders were put in power by the same bankers and globalists who are pulling the strings. When they are no longer of use to the controllers, they are removed – sometimes forcibly or with Economic Hitmen. Russia, China, Brazil, India, South Africa, in fact every country that has ever existed has controlled, manipulated, suppressed and murdered its population, invaded other countries and slaughtered them in the name of all kinds of things, merely for the acquisition of resources. How can you rely on that to save you? Please remember these world conflicts are merely bargaining chips. The middle east crisis is controlled by the Elite. At the upper echelons, this planet is completely manipulated and corrupted to the core. If there is to be a world war, then it will be the next step to achieving the goal written in stone on the Georgia Guidestones. These are my own thoughts, maybe things will get better than the silliness going on right now, and I am wrong. I pray I am wrong! If you want change, then change yourself. Protect yourself. Do whatever it takes to prepare yourself. Because, the only person you can 100% rely on is yourself. If people did this around the world, the world would be a different place.)
Margeurite, what James said is entirely true. I know for a fact that Maurice Strong, a longtime honorable elite member, spends most of his time living in China. The East/West conflict is smoke and mirrors to suit the agenda at hand. Neither Putin nor Obama are setting that agenda.
James, appreciate very much your comments and thoughts. Reading through your response I see it’s being too idealistic to expect something positive in today’s world affairs. Biblical prophecies keep me weighted to the view of ‘gloomy world ahead’. It didn’t take much to ditch the BRICS query I had. Vladimir Putin dining regularly with Henry Kissinger! To be honest, reading that was a shock. I find it hard to see those two being compatible friends. So it must be for other reasons. A good piece of ‘intel’ BTW. Your advice at the end I agree with – that is, become as much as possible self reliant – which is why this site is of value since it offers real material in that direction. Thank you James.
(ED: The funny bit about it is that the Elite demonize self-sufficiency. They want everyone reliant on everyone else so their job as controller is justified. The number of self-sufficient communities I have seen raided and destroyed over the past few years has been considerable. I think becoming as self-sufficient as possible and taking care of yourself is the best way that you can empower yourself and disempower the Elite. The more people who become self-sufficient and able to protect themselves, the more likely the Elite’s plan will unravel.)
Good point ED. How can they control a system when no one is participating in it.
everyday joe, thanks for your info too – you and ED cleared up some naivety I had
Actually, if you listen to Jim Willie, Agenda 21 was terminated. East didn’t allow it. This is his theory on why Ebola disappeared so suddenly from the news. Will see that. There is one super power in this world that controls everything and it’s called ignorance. Since it’s ruling, I wouldn’t hope for anything good, both from the west and the east. Otherwise, for me, the world of politics, is not that different from the world of corporations. They are in fact tied together. There are a few big centers of power with many satellites, and at the bottom are the common people. So, who is really supporting the whole pyramid? Is this so complicated question? For the world of ignorance – it seems so…
(ED: Agenda 21 just became the ‘Sustainable Development’ agenda. These agendas don’t just go away because a handful of nations want concessions. This sustainable development agenda is being pushed globally including in the East. On Friday, 25th September 2015 at 9am the Pope will address the 70th Regular Session of the UN General Assembly and will focus on sustainable living, eradicating poverty and calling upon world leaders to address climate change. Significantly at 11am on 25th September 2015 the UN Summit for the adoption of the post-2015 development agenda will open. They have such a prominent world religious leader addressing this conference because it is important to get worldwide coverage.)
opening salvo then of NWO official implementation? Decclaration of One World Statehood?
For those of you who claim to follow Jesus, what would he do?
would he speak out ? Yes he would
Would he pick up a gun? No way
would he stockpile gold, silver and food? I doubt it.
If you truly believe then you would lay down your life
before considering taking anothers.
This life is temporary, the afterlife is eternal.
Either you are a believer or you are not.
The only thing we have that they cannot destroy
is our soul, the only person that can destroy that
is ourselves.Trust no one but Jesus and I include
Pastor Williams and everyone else.
You’re wrong.
This is a war between God’s children and Lucifer’s children. Lucifer’s children (the Elite) are trying to impoverish and or destroy God’s children (everyone else, yourself included). The bible is clear self defense is moral, which is what preparing is.
http://www.biblicalselfdefense.com/
MEGA FINANCIAL ROUNDTABLE (TRUNEWS RADIO 062215) https://youtu.be/CpCIVRVA-Xk
Top CEO Warns Of Global Reset: “It’s In The Cards For Sure… It Could Happen This Year”
http://thenewsdoctors.com/top-ceo-warns-of-global-reset-its-in-the-cards-for-sure-it-could-happen-this-year/
Pastor talks about listening for buzz words from the elite..
U.K. Telegraph has reported on 20 June British bond fund manager Ian Spreadbury saying:
“… inevitable correction will come from a clear blue sky – a completely unanticipated event.”
“The message is diversification. Think about holding other assets. That could mean precious metals, it could mean physical currencies”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/investing/11686199/Its-time-to-hold-physical-cash-says-one-of-Britains-most-senior-fund-managers.html
Total Emergency Alert: Elite Now Evacuating
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=633&v=pnGl8Nz0oLE
This thread has become absolutely useless. I’m outta here for good.
Please be careful with all of this. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen hype like “Total Emergency Alert: Elite Now Evacuating”. Remember Y2K? 2012? Harold Camping? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Camping
The Global Currency reset imminent early last year? (I still think this one is going to happen, just a question of timing.)
My point is, keep preparing, but don’t burn any bridges, or do anything like quit your job etc. Keep your options open. Yea things may collapse by the end of the year, but if they don’t have a plan for that too.
Another canary in the coal mine: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/investing/11686199/Its-time-to-hold-physical-cash-says-one-of-Britains-most-senior-fund-managers.html
most of us dont have much cash, but suppose one did? bringing in a new currency will make what one has pretty much devalued and those who hold PMS will face arrest when possession is made illegal
We’re seeing The Lord’s prophecies really staring to happen. He stated there would be a great apostasy close to His second coming.
Take a look at the numerous youtube presentations denying The Lord ever lived or that He exists. Some calling Him a fictitious figure. Richard Carrier is a lecturer to start with if anyone is interested. The number of thumbs up is astounding.
I found it really offensive listening to some of the presentations and reading some of the comments.
The Lord was dead on right in His prophecy (of course).
Bible 2 Peter 2:1: But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
Bible 2 Thessalonians 2: Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
Bible 1 Timothy 4:11 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2nd Thess 2:3 in the Geneva Bible (forerunner to the KJV} says: Let no man deceive you by any means; for that day shall not come, except there come a departing, first, and that that man of sin be disclosed, even the son of perdition. Joseph Good had a program series on TBN 20-25 years ago, called In The Footsteps of the Messiah, and he pointed out that change. As stated in the Geneva Bible that “departing, first” refers to the rapture. He further said that the Greek word used here for “first” was proton and indicates violent or sudden. Jack Van Impe always has said that the rapture happens in a fraction of a second. I have studied Bible Prophecy for almost 50 years and whenever I question the KJV I refer back to the Geneva Bible. These are the only Bibles I will use.
Jerry, You are absolutely correct. There were like seven bibles before the KJV that said “The Departure”. Have you ever listened to Pastor R A Coombes presentation of “America the Babylon”? You made me think of him when you mentioned Joseph Good. They both teach that America will be destroyed around a Rosh Hashanah. If you would to listen to Pastor Coombes just google him on the Prophecy Club given in 1998. This book cost Coombes friends, family and finances. His basic scripture given is Jeremiah 50-51, Revelation 17-18, portions of Isaiah 13-18 and Isaiah 47…the Hindermost of the nations, the Hammer of the earth is broken (Policeman of the world) is destroyed in a surprise attack. The economic engine for the world is destroyed. In “One Hour’s Time” great riches come to nothing
According to the dictionary the meaning of departure isn’t “leaving” or something like that, but to differ. Departure is used for airplane travel and that word “departure” doesn’t mean “to depart and leave” during the days of the KJV or any other bible before the KJV.
But this part in 2.Thess.2,3 is related to the falling away of Christians from God and is not the rapture. All German bibles and the KJV say “falling away” and nothing about a rapture. Don’t misinterpret that passage only because you want to believe in a rapture before the tribulation.
Al,Thanks, but keep studying!!!!
Thanks for your comment about Geneva Bible.
That scripture is referencing the great falling away, a vast majority will leave the faith. This undoubtedly will happen when they uncloak the mother ship over Washington and say there are aliens and the Vatican agrees and rewrites the bible or disregards most of it. This will be the signs and wonders the bible speaks of and the “even the very elect” will be deceived. The aliens will be a partnership of demonic power along with advanced technology the demons and Satan have given to his scientist that they have kept hidden form the public. When there is no “rapture” and the aliens are uncloaked a lot of people will “fall away” God says to endure until the end. Rapture is nowhere in the bible, we build line upon line, precept upon precept. When Christ returns with the angels after the tribulation then will be the 1st resurrection from the dead, all those who have died throughout history and “fallen asleep” like Daniel and who have the holy spirit will be raised from the dead and “born again” into the family of God and given a spirit body, then any of us who are alive will transformed into a spirits instantly, we will all meet Christ in the air and given our new names and have the marriage. Then we ALL we go down to make war and crush Satan’s empire, he also has an arrest warrant that will be issued at that time and the jailer will come for him and put him in jail.
Thanks Penny, from what I’ve studied so far I agree with what you wrote. My logic guesses that the elect who are alive during the tribulation would be servants of Christ in aiding others who are turning to Him.
jerry, this an incorrect interpretation. The church in Thessalonica was worried that they had missed the rapture, so Paul sets things straight here. 2 Thess 2:1 provides the context, that Paul is writing about Jesus coming and our gather together unto him (the rapture). So it wouldn’t make sense that Paul says the rapture can’t come unless the rapture comes first. Paul was referring to the apostasy happening first. I’d stick with the King James, its a better translation.
http://www.examiner.com/article/is-opec-close-to-using-petro-yuan-as-russia-commences-talks-with-saudi-arabia
Is OPEC close to using Petro-Yuan as Russia commences talks with Saudi Arabia?
past 10 days, Russia and China have concluded two historic energy agreements in which both oil and natural gas will now be sold using the Yuan currency. And with Russia beginning oil talks with Saudi Arabia on June 18 during the economic forum currently being held in St. Petersburg,
A question for the Americans on here: why are u still in the US?
You must be awake to Jade Helm and the law that says you can be black bagged in middle of night and detained forever with no charge …os that the Patriot Act? Jim Willy left US for that reason amongst others as he didn’t want it to happen to him.
In short, you know the FEMA camps are licking their lips waiting for uband your family… so… why are u still there?! I would have run away a long time ago!!
Jake,
You ask a very good question. Unfortunately I’m married to someone who doesn’t believe the things we talk about on this site will get that bad. In other words she thinks we’re all nuts. If I didn’t take my vows seriously I’d have sold my house, business, and anything else that wasn’t nailed down and headed for Central or South America. So, since the Mrs. says we’re staying put I’m making all the preparations I can to ride this thing out, Lord willing.
I need to share this story with you all as this is too cool. I’d been thinking about getting a home generator for some time and this weekend I prayed, “Lord, if you think I should have a home generator please make one available to me at a reasonable price.” Monday morning I was in my office and a older Christian client called on an administrative matter which I took care of. We got to chatting and he told me he and his wife were relocating to another state to be near their kids. He said they were getting rid of things ahead of the move but had this almost brand new generator that they were unable to sell. I asked him what he wanted for it and he said $275 and I said, “I’ll take it!” He said they had been praying that a buyer would come through for them and he’s going to deliver it to me. Is that not remarkable and can there be any doubt our Heavenly Father looks after his children?
God Bless!
Goldfinger
I have the same situation here. There is only 1 person in my family that i can talk to about the coming Armageddon. I have a large family and they do not listen at all. There comments are, (oh well why bother to prepare, Ill just die, it will be my time.)( Oh well what can i do about it) (Oh they wont let that happen)(Oh it wont be in my lifetime)( Oh maby in 10 or 20 years. Currently i am the only one starting to prepare to try to survive. Because im alone, i find it very difficult to pay for all the preparations myself. But i am really getting a great stock of food, Pepper spray, and copper bullion, some silver, medical supplies, Antibiotics!!!! and the fundamental TP. what i really am concerned about, is when TSHTF and all mayhem breaks loose, they will be at my door with hands out. All i can say to everyone, is why didnt you prepare when you had the chance. Now you want me to support all of you?
A lot of us have these situations. My daughters think Eschatology is a bunch of BS, and my Mother, who does believe in God, says “He will decide when I an ready to go, I don’t need to prepare…)
I prayed for her to be safe (she lives in a big city), and, during the period Sept. 13-23 she will be overseas (in a small town with her side of the family), so maybe this is an answer to that prayer.
where do we go? If you think it is safe elsewhere you are kidding yourself.
Rt,
You make a good point. Metals guru Bill Holter repatriated back to Texas from Panama as he felt the ticos would turn on the gringos when TSHTF. He wanted to band together with his own community when the hammer falls. That being said, I believe the US will take the brunt of God’s judgment for our nation’s rebellion against Him. Abortion, gay marriage, kicking God out of the classroom, the public square, mocking him on T.V., and running up debts that can never be repaid. If a nation turns its back on God, God will turn his back on us. Read Revelation 17-18. Anytime you see Babylon, Mystery Babylon, or Babylon the Great, substitute America and see if it doesn’t fit.
Goldfinger
I hear you Goldfinger. I may be naïve but although the Government has turned against God I still believe there are more God fearing people in America then in any other country on the planet. That is what I am going to take my chances on. I am not blind to the coming judgment on America, but I pray that God somehow separates the wheat from the chaff as only HE knows how.
just where are we supposed to go? without tens of thousands in a slush fund- where to go? how to survive once arrived? many scrape by day to day and dont work for intl conglomerates to transfer overseas
Jason – don’t let them steal your blessed hope.
watch these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRh8rcVNtUk move on to part 2 these from bible code
Jerry
That’s offensive…. the blessed hope is Jesus Himself and I never ever did or would steal that from anyone. The rapture is not a blessed hope Jesus is! Why do rapture believers go on about it like its the most important thing? Jesus, the cross, eternity… these are the things. Rapture is sketchy at best. Plus youtube videos dont exactly count for much these days.
If the rapture is false or doesnt happen before the trib (so the Body suffers badly) I really hope the believers dont fall away thinking “oh ut never happened and now I’m scared of this hell on earth we’re in”. This is the danger. The rapture BEFORE TRIB SUFFERING is a doctrine thars one notch above Joel Osteen’s prosperity gospel, imo. Dangerous as it can bring false hope and huge disappointment and loss of faith when it fails.
Still, much love to all the believers out there whichever way this plays out and Jerry I did NOT steal any believer’s hope nor would I try to as that’s a terrible sin. I disagree with pre trib rapture. That rapture should not be your “hope”. Jesus is your hope. Jesus is not a rapture. Just clearing it up for the record. Thanks.
If you’re saved, you have Jesus. I have always hoped to not go thru the tribulation period.
Jesus said that he was persecuted by the world and that we will also be persecuted, because the servant is not more than his master. Why should we raptured before tribulation? Henoch and Elisah have been raptured. No Apostel was raptured, maybe John, but that isn’t clearly mentioned.
1. Thess. 4,13-18 states that we have to go thru tribulation.
13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
The bible doesn’t contradicts itself and it is clearly stated that we, which will be alive shall be caught up with the dead. and the dead shall raise first. That doesn’t sound like rapture of us before tribulation, more the opposite.
Nice presentation with the Biblical verses on Christ’s second coming. It too places the rapture after the tribulation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R9KXMrdXHU
Yes it does, and there are many passages that contradict the backwards modern teaching of “pre-rapture” where the idea is to leave free will behind, don’t worry, be happy, sing along with the mindless Christian rock songs, clap yo hands and hope to die before ever having to stand up for or to speak out for God almighty!!! The twisted satanist elites are perverting and destroying all life and creation that represent God’s love thru the twisting of the cannons of the Bible itself… Incredible that so many are caught up in the LIE!
Amos 5:18
Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light.
1 Thess 5:9
For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
Titus 2:13
Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
A very well done analysis of the Biblical texts regarding the rapture. I think it has nailed the question on whether the rapture occurs pre or post tribulation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=1356&v=Llj1Rse7OTg
“God blesses those who bless Israel” and nothing else matters remember? No land has ever been more subservient to what that demonic Tribe demanded of it, than the USA is to the zionists- so why are we in such a mess of sin???
DATA service blocked, unable to access, CELL phone usage, Worldwide, Nationwide, Citywide , IS RESTRICTED under NET, NOT, NEUTRAL, NEUTRALITY! Talk to family, group servicing, circles, ALL are restricted!!! Please NOTIFY, Family, loved ones of their, inability, your, inability to talk freely, inform freely, warn freely! ACCESS on Cell, (group migrations) RESTRICTED!
TIME TO WARN IS GROWING SHORT, PREPARE!!! AMERICA IS BEING QUARTERED, DIVIDED, AND SLAUGHTERED UNDER THEIR VERY NOSES!
JADE HELM
The last of the bastions must come!
Who should we warn that’s gonna listen?! I think we’ve all tried but sheeple aint listening!
This collapse WILL happen in September. Rosh Hashanah takes place on the 2nd weekend of September when the Rapture will take place. This begins the ten Days of Awe, culminating with Yom Kippur on Sept 23, the Day of Atonement. Five days later on Sukkot, the final Blood Moon occurs, beginning the seven year Tribulation period.
Prepare your souls to meet God! Jesus IS LORD. Ask Him into your heart and repent for your sins. Time is up folks.
nobody knows the day or the hour. not even the SON.
“And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come” …The Lord
Ok Jason so if I’m still here on say 20th sept I guess I wasn’t a true saved believer in Jesus after all. In this case He would have left me behind to die and suffer down here right?
Let’s see!
And if you’re still here on the 20th Sept then same applies to you yes?
If the internet/grid is still up on 20th Sept then I’ll come onto this forum and post for you to see if you are still down here. If you are please honestly reply to me so we can see yet another fake rapture prediction failed. I really hope the rapture-believing Christians dont lose gope or faith when the trib starts and they (we) all have to go through hell on earth like the Bible says. I know that will lead to a great falling away.
Jason – much love in Jesus to you – come meet me on this forum on the 20th Sept if you are still down here so we can talk about why the rapture didn’t happen (ot doesn’t seem Biblical, that’s probably why).
There are many theories about the rapture. It is Biblical. The timing is the question. I have kept an open mind and have heard persuasive arguments for each scenario. My advice is be ready always. Jesus will come on a day we do not expect him to.
You almost sound offended if it would happen! The pre-trib rapture is sound doctrine. We are not created for wrath. True, the Church has suffered wrath FROM MAN since its inception. What we have not, and WILL NOT suffer is wrath from God. People don’t realize the magnitude of the tribulation. Stars falling from the sky, oceans turning to blood, earthquakes that shake the planet, the church is not made to go through that! You are the bride of Christ, redeemed at the cross, sins washed away by His precious blood. There is NO judgement for you brother! Rejoice! HE claimed victory and is returning for us!
Now, as to me claiming a certain date… It’s just my opinion. I don’t KNOW He’s coming back on that date, but all the signs point to YES! Shemitah year, Jubilee year, Blood moons, the state of the world, Israel as a nation, COME LORD JESUS!
I’ve seen wrong interpretation about tribulation during the last 7 years. When “holy agreement” will be signed in autumn, this will bring to “peace” for some time. So it’s no tribulation time at least for 1 year. This time is necessary for Vladimir Putin to prepare first invasions in European area. The worst will come for all during the last 3,5 years, but the true wrath should be only after rapture (for about 75 days). “First” rapture, alien abduction, is scheduled in september. This is a false rapture. For this they temporarily will open a portal to Hades and I think it will be connected to blood type. It’s a part of deception programme. Who want to catch Jesus must pass the tribulation, not wrath of God. Everyone should be prepared to lose all in this period, even life, but gain an everlasting crown. So, I recommend not to mix tribulation and wrath of God. And not pay attention to “first” rapture. Just check blood type (and RH factor) of missing people.
There will be no rapture by Jesus for christians, but maybe a false rapture. 😉
Here’s a minister who highlights Biblical verses which explain the rapture won’t take place until:
– the falling away occurs
– the son of perdition appears on the world scene
Starts at 1:19:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aB2mu1_DvI
The falling away has been occurring for DECADES. when heart of the bible belt- okla cty-has govt owned public civic center holding satanic black mass, and a satanic baphomet statue erected on capital grounds?
60 million abortions
torture of innocents and unprovoked wars around the globe…how much more of a falling away can you expect?
For those concerned about Jade Helm, Alex Jones and his team completed 3 months of research into this facility and compiled a video report on their findings. Some of the sources for the information are government documents and insiders into the operation. Report starts at 34:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D5fnCd0YWg
After watching, all I can say is I’m just waiting for the Lord’s return.
(ED: It is interesting in that investigative report they mentioned IBM. Another very important presentation I recommend for those of you interested in what IBM is involved with is a presentation from Greg Nikolettos in November 2009 at The Alternative View entitled ‘The Human Microchipping Agenda’. You can watch it for free here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYvY8_9eFL0 )
This was good to watch, thank you James. It shows how the psychopaths with all the money are working to hurt man. Satan at his old tricks trying to be like God. The thing is, God is indestructible and man has a spark of God in him (the breath breathed into man).
The presentation shows how the iPhone is a powerful tool in the agenda. I wonder whether all mobile phones would pose the same risk of privacy infringement and data collection or whether being connected to Apple causes greater exposure. The strategies they’re using to lure people are novelty, ease, comfort, security which people who are asleep will easily fall for.
Why don’t we start infringing on those creating these technologies and let’s see how they would react. Let’s turn the table on them.
It brings home the point that without freedom there is no love.
Marguerite,
Alex Jones is a government agent along with a lot of others in the media.
Alex Jones taking over a peaceful gun rally back in 2010 is all you need to watch to know that.
Go search on youtube or other sites:
“2010 alex jones gun rally psyop”
Alex Jones, aka FogHorn LegHorn Jones, Destroys Austin Texas Gun Rally, Exposes Self As Shill
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntXlgYnJ_xc
Alex Jones Crashes Austin Pro Gun Rally, Then Lies About It On His Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6y-j8OQ6ew
Alex Jones Outed As A Bilderberg Shill On BBC News Show! – “Shill”derberg Fringe Fest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TACalwg360c
Alien Fossil project exposed Alex Jones quite a bit.. Jones allegedly threatened the dude.
https://www.youtube.com/user/humanswin/videos
Lots of other vids and expose videos on people like Jones.
Trunews’ Rick Wiles conducts a two-part interview with Mena Lee Grebin, a Charlotte NC prophetic minister, who was given a series of dreams and visions about a massive economic collapse, martial law, and riots. She believes great trouble will start in September 2015.
http://www.trunews.com/thursday-may-7-2015-mena-lee-grebin-pt-1/
http://www.trunews.com/friday-may-8-2015-mena-lee-grebin-pt-2/
This IS NOT A GAME, THIS IS REAL…I’ve been expressing to everyone to get your financial plan in place, because God is allowing this FINANCIAL CRASH to come ONLY to the US, to humble the US to bring them back to Him.
Just like He warned Noah before the flood came. It’s your choice to believe it or not…Its way too many signs and warnings given by God’s Anointed Men & Women, that don’t know each other, but all have the same message and timeframe of Sept. 2015.
Link: https://youtu.be/T5M7NngNW70
I think this Jewish Messianic Prophet Rabbi, know’s his Jewish history and God’s timetable of past events with His people and Jehovah. DO NOT IGNORE THIS.
Seek God’s wisdom on what to do during these times of FAMINE thats coming.
So the UK wont be hit by this?
The whole world will be affected as everything is interconnected.
Ghost of 1937 coming back for a visit? http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-15/bank-america-begins-66-day-countdown-until-terrible-ghost-1937-returns